Shambhalanth,

Thank you for your response.

To clarify, the tantric violation of chakras to which I refer is one which takes place on an *astral level only.* It involves waking and

dreaming manipulations of energy and thoughts and also behaviors and activities. There is no physical contact with any other person, in the

sense of physical contact being defined as that reality in which it occurs being on the same plane as the one in which I sit and type here on

my keyboard - although the attacks are accompanied by/composed of definite sensations and feelings and physical manifestations which are

on this plane, such as pain in areas of the body and involuntary orgasm, the latter of which is usually preceeded by my hearing a voice

issuing commands and an intense feeling of vertigo. Additionally this is sometimes accompanied by blinding headaches and muscle spasms

until I am forced to lie down. I can hear some part of myself having a conversation with the person that is violating my chakras/energy

meridians.

After this went on for some time, I began to fight as hard as I could to make the attacks stop, regardless of the pain or violent things the

voice was saying. I began saying in my mind negative and devious things to the attacker to put them off. It took me a long time to get to this

point. The involuntary orgasms haved 99% stopped, as has much of the pain, but still I feel a feel a presence that is unwelcome and the

instigator of these attacks hovering around me. I also now have insomnia because I find it a way to avoid the astral realms.

Why did I wait a long time to fight back? I was afraid. And then I pretended that I believed that the person I was in contact with, which

manifested only through dreams in the beginning, was someone who had my interest at heart - or someone who even needed my help.

Obviously this could never be the case. As the violence and severity of the energy manipulation and control increased, I kept reminding

myself more and more that this was not proper, no matter how cajoling or sweet-talking or, alternately, threatening and frightening the

voice and presence and pain could be. I am now in a place where my sole purpose in this situation is to make the occurences and the psychic

attacks cease completely. And to be honest, I have been abused physically, mentally, emotionally and sexually by family members and other

people (who do not merit being bestowed with the term 'lover' - 'past mistake' is a more accurate term). But never anything to this extreme.

I do believe in telepathy and sex without touching, but I also believe that there has to be a 100% clear degree of honesty and understanding

between consenting adults or else the phenomena which could be spiritual is a perversion of light energy and higher consciousness of the

worst kind. The karma of the person(s) who has attacked me is probably very bad indeed.

As I said, since I moved away from the place the attackers were, the phenomena have dissipated greatly. However, there are still occurences.

Now I experience in general more minor ones, but they occur on an unfortunately regular basis, varying from one or two times a week to all

day for several days at a time.

I am very familiar with DSM IV, for a number of reasons. In this case, it does not apply. And my blood work shows normal results. I do

follow spiritual practices and have since I was very young. I do not "hear angelic voices trying to help me with my gifts." Although I used to

be very in touch with my spirit guides and spiritual practices, sadly, since the energy violation began, I feel estranged from my natural

spiritual center...I feel blocked from reaching that place of peace which comes when one's chakras are in good harmony and one can reach

out to divine sources. What I hear instead are one to a few specific voices indentifiable with people I know/knew in the "real" world, and

they are invasive, abusive, cruel and manipulative in the things they say and do. Astral travel can be wonderful, but when one is drawn, by

what appears to be a psychic cord (which I have visualized cutting over and over, with, happily SOME positive result) to an undesired

location on a repeated basis, and experience violations of an undesired nature - at that point, astral travel becomes a hardship as well as a

blessing. I understand that you counsel people to look at hearing voices as not necessarily being bad - but if a voice and presence is saying

or provoking someone to do something which is making them unhappy and upset and ill, then I know that the source behind the veil does

not have their good interests at heart.

I think it is funny and a feel a little hurt that you think I would "attack" you. Although I understand why you said this, and I see why some

people could find the idea of other dimensional beings contacting them to help them upsetting - be the 'spirits' ancestors, totems, guides, or angels - because some people aren't open to that and maybe never will be (though I hope this is not always the case). Yet

I am posting this topic to find help in avoiding being attacked. I am not into attacks of any kind, and aside from extreme situations were self

-preservation is threatened, I am a pacifist to an extreme - which may be why this grueling experience I have gone through occurred. I was

an easy mark in someone's eyes, and that someone (or as I think, more than one person, maybe two or three people) had an understanding of

some energetic and psychic working practices yet no moral compass and used the power of their mind to direct and manipulate energy for a selfish and wicked purpose.

As an aside, from my view point of helping/counselling others, which I have done in an emotional, mental and spiritual capacity my whole life, if you are approaching someone about something you think might upset them, the best way to do that, I humbly feel, is delicately...so perhaps, saying, "I do not mean to alarm/frighten/offend you, but there are other perceptions: many people view this

occurence/idea/etc., this way and they are mentally/emotionally/spiritually well...what do you think of this? Have you ever considered this? Would you be open to exploring if this alternate view might apply to your situation?" Of course you are considerate, you seem genuinely caring and compassionate towards others...I am just saying, sometimes, finding the most soothing words to convey something potentially upsetting is difficult and requires (at least for me) a lot of thought. For example, I wanted to address you being attacked for expressing your alternate views to others, but I am worried I am not conveying my concern or wish to help you with this perfectly.

Last but not least I must clarify my erroneous use of the term "guru." What I meant to imply was someone with a lot of esoteric and

spiritually based knowledge, someone who would have training or at least experience in the art of working with energy. Over the years I

have heard of many people who supposedly achieve this status through mastering themselves and working with energy, etc., but then find

themselves going 'power mad.' Clearly they are not holy, nor true gurus. I am not sure how I would classify the person(s) who had/have been

bothering me in various ways. Please pardon my clumsy attempt to put all of this into words, it is difficult to say the least.

I am actually quite dizzy at the moment, so I hope everything I write here is pretty concise and peaceable and elaborates on the phenomena I

am trying to describe. At this moment I am being contacted via telepathy and it feels like someone is hitting me in the face. The voice is

very angry and I am developing a headache. The voice is male. There is a vague picture. Now the pressure has lessened. Now the pain has

abatted from my head, but it feels like someone just kicked me in the knee. It goes on like this.

Thank you for your response, it was very interesting and helpful in many ways, and I believe that other sufferers of energy abuse (or possibly

energy disfunction from poor health) will find your comments helpful as well.

Om Shanti, may you walk in beauty always.

~ Eve

Dear Christina,

You are absolutely right, and expressing my situation more clearly: energy abuse. I do not really know what is going on. Every time I had one of the 'dizzy + headache + near blackouts' followed by involuntary orgasm and hearing a voice, and experiencing severe pain in trying to fight the overwhelming presence off, I would hear this voice ask me after the fact if 'I enjoyed the tantric sex.' I would say no. I am not a tantric sex expert. I do not know if tantric sex by definition requires physical, real world contact, or if it can be called tantric sex when it occurs on the astral level.

The persons I believe are attacking me are someone(s) I worked with, a half-cousin who attacked me once, and an ex-'mistake' who will not let go. All these people have fluctuating energy, physical illness, anger problems, dabble in the occult, play mind games, are misogynists who co-erce and control women and use violence and drugs to get sex. Because I ignore them and shut them out of my life I feel that they attacked me another way to 'get even' with me. Obviously these are deranged people. I happen to know about their various attacks of other women as well, on the physical plane.

And yes, I need to be 'unmindfucked' because all these people pushed their disfunctional attitudes and mores on me. I am a very (too much I think) open, compassionate, caring person with a gift for healing. I believe that my inner light attracts those who live in spiritual darkness and so I find myself in this situation. I am attractive, but do not dress provocatively, or colorfully, I do not have elaborate hair or make-up, I am not putting out vibes.

I will PM you. I just wanted to put this here as another clarification of what I am specifically dealing with and asking for responses and help.

Thank you for your compassion and understanding.

Om Shanti, may you walk in beauty always,

~ Eve

Shamb and I argued over the nature of the Tree of life, whether it fits the body, such like. The chakras do, Ida, Pingala, Sushumna. Boaz, Jachin, middle pillar. Sacral, you say? I have studied in depth the vices and virtues of the sephiroth and I find that the idea of those who would insist on staying in Malkuth past its demise practice the vices of the form Pillar to a high degree. At it's bottom is Samael, in Hod, and I am trying to detect how it is that the most evil off their evil qliphotic energies into our collective microcosmic yesods.

I'm not falling into any trap. If your post were an email I would have simply ignored it due to your comments being so illogical and hateful toward women and all people who have suffered attack. I would have just written you off as another loon.

But it wasn't an email, it was a post of hate read by hundreds or thousands of people. You may not be used to people standing up to you with a mirror and revealing your inner essence. However, now everyone has seen it and knows what you are like.

You speak from a lack of wisdom and a preponderance of ego. I'm no white night. I'm just revealing what you are. If you don't like it when people stand up to you, you are free to do as you will. Svecchacharya!