A Tantric Mistake - Consequences and learnings

topic posted Sun, January 6, 2008 - 3:45 PM by  ananth
To err is human, to admit is divine...

This is hard to talk about, but here it is. A few years ago, a very lovely Californian blonde in her early 40s requested me to coach her on the esoteric mysteries of kundalini, its arousal, and awakening. She wanted me to help her unleash the energy through the classical tantric ways using a variety of sensual and sexual methods. She was married, and so I felt it would be highly inappropriate for me to use the sexual approach to kundalini movement. So, I declined.

She was very persuasive, very intent, and gosh darn it, very attractive. So I finally agreed to awaken all the energy latent in her, but through the most secret of all of tantric methods, one that is usually never talked about, written about, and whose use is not looked at kindly by the Goddess - yes, Sarpa Tantra - the path of the serpent. This is the non-sexual (no intercourse) tantric approach that arises awakens and moves the kundalini wherever you want in less than 5 minutes - the time it takes to get a non-fat, single shot, decaf latte at Starbucks. The method is conceptually extremely simple - the awakener (me), embodies, models, and personifies the kundalini energy of the awakened one (her), and systematically moves through each chakra physically. As I act the part of the serpent, breathing, hissing, coiling, and striking each chakra forcefully, her energy also gets the cue and moves, and soon her body starts to shake under the assault of my modeling the serpentine kundalini, and her own kundalini rising to mimic me. It is extremely fast, extremely powerful, and extremely dangerous to directly awaken the energy.

Needless to say, I took the kundalini all the way beyond the Ajna chakra between the eyebrows and into her head. She was shuddering and said the experience was more incredible than any sex she had ever had, and it put her in a state of mind she had never been before. I felt good, and I told her that I had unleashed her great psychic energy, and it was her responsibility to take the energy safely and do good and wonders to this world. I asked her to meditate, and then left the place.

What I had not realized was that I had put great power in her hands when she was ill equipped to handle the energy, channel it in peaceful ways, and transform the great power into happiness for others. She had all the intent, but had no practice or knowhow to do any of it. The consequences were very painful as I later found out. Her sexual appetite had grown a thousand fold causing her to create deep fissures in her marriage, and her focus in her professional life had suffered. Her health, especially her digestion and stomach were totally shot, and she was in an extremely precarious condition. Her marriage was on the rocks, and she was on the verge of a total breakdown.

When I finally met her, she squarely blamed her condition, mental, physical, emotional, familial, and sexual all on me. She said 'Ananth, it is all your fault. Even if I had begged you to release my kundalini, you should not have, especially in the most direct approach you used. What happened to your sense of responsibility? Why did not suggest some gentle incremental approach, but used an approach that even the books ban?"

I agreed with her. It was my fault. I had not gauged where she was in a spiritual sense, and in my eagerness to show her the extent of her own energy, and in a desire to perhaps impress her with my ability to awaken and move her kundalini in an instant, I had erred in a very serious way. Despite my belief in my own evolution, it was obvious that when an attractive woman asked me to move her energy far beyond where it should have gone, I succumbed to my male desire to impress her, and just picked up her kundalini and just tossed it around. It ended up causing her great havoc, and her family great trouble.

So I became more convinced that the tools I know, love, and use, were just not the right ones for most of this world. I also felt poorly that despite my own strength and sense of integrity, a beautiful woman had just made to do things that as a teacher I would have frowned upon. Sarpa Tantra will probably die with me, similar to how the five point palm exploding heart technique dies with Pai Mei in Kill Bill 2. The world is better off without people using tools of tantra to cause mental and sexual havoc in othes. Being generous, kind, and loving to all can take one to everyplace we need to go, and we can dispense with the tantric mumbo jumbo entirely.

I kept this to myself, and became very reluctant to teach anybody, but I thought that this is an important experience in my life that perhaps has lessons for some. So I decided to share. Flame me if you want, blame me if you want. I think I deserve all of it.

- Ananth Tantri
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ananth
SF Bay Area
  • Sounds to me like your ego took over and in ONE case, as a result, you believe you screwed up. Then, you somehow came to the wild conclusion that because your ego got the best of you in ONE SITUATION, "...the tools I know, love, and use, were just not the right ones for most of this world."

    That's like saying if you saw someone slip off the bottom rung of a latter and get hurt, you should remove the bottom rungs of all ladders. Sorry, Ananth, but your transition from the specific to the general is irrational and illogical. It would take quite a bit of egotism to make that jump.

    Sounds like your ego is still soaring.

    Namaste!
    • I shared my experience so others could benefit from not handling with care that which should be handled with care.

      Discussion of my ego was not quite my intent though discussing my "ego" seems to be a particular fascination of yours.

      Surrounded by cheap manuscripts, and a thousand reprints of texts, you pontificate my friend, devoid of any real physical experience. I doubt if you ever experienced anything profound other than holding the crisp copy of a photocopied manuscript so you could pontificate some more.

      Given your obvious propensity to appear erudite, try translating this for a change "Gunamennum kundreri nindrar veguli ganameyum kathal aridhu". And if and when you figure it out, perhaps you should heed it.

      - Ananth Tantri
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        Re: A Tantric Mistake - Consequences and learnings

        Sun, January 6, 2008 - 10:42 PM
        You shared this to say you are powerful. The rest is insignificant to you, as this was your aim. If you ever care to show your power to a real sadhak, as opposed to big titted blonds then let me know. Tell the truth, and be careful. Translate, "brother in-law"]

        Mazu
        Mahakala Bhairava Aghori
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          Mon, January 7, 2008 - 12:18 AM
          Tantra is not a contest, but a journey.

          There is no power to be shown. The most awesome power is nature, and we are part of it.

          I have no desire to demonstrate anything to you. Why don't we simplify matters by my bowing down to you and acknowledging the presence of the divine in you.

          There is nothing derogatory about blondes, and nothing wrong with them possessing any physical attributes.

          Your titles are very impressive, and I hope they give you satisfaction, peace, and grace.

          - Ananth Tantri
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            Re: A Tantric Mistake - Consequences and learnings

            Mon, January 7, 2008 - 10:41 PM
            Wow, flowery with clever semantics and the self-important superiority of the patronizing ending is simply wonderful. I gave you my name doctor, not my "title". Just admit you messed up, and overstepped. You may convince the "tantrics" of the tantra tribe, but it does not matter to me. You cannot fool me. So you must decide what is more important, your pride, or the real truth with Yama as witness. I have stepped in it plenty of times doctor, no shame. If you contact me out of the forum, I'll let you save face.. I saw it in some movie.
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        Mon, January 7, 2008 - 12:40 AM
        Ananth wrote, "Discussion of my ego was not quite my intent though discussing my "ego" seems to be a particular fascination of yours."

        You throw your egotism in front of people so much that it's hard to avoid. You may CONSCIOUSLY think that discussion of your ego was not your intent, but your subconscious seems to be egotistically crying for attention, and, as one person pointed out, bragging about how powerful you are.

        "Khan, I'm laughing at the superior intellect."

        Namaste!
        • Look who is talking !

          This forum is for people to talk freely about their errors, and through writing and talking, heal themselves and perhaps in the process provide a learning or two for others.

          Many here could do without self styled pompous maniacs such as youself continuously pointing out flaws in everyone else.

          So you are without ego? You are not crying for attention - heck the first thing you do when anyone posts anything here is to immediately point flaws and errors in what they write drawing attention to yourself with little or no regard to what they are trying to really articulate.

          You have no capacity to learn, or heal. Your posts are built on conflict and confrontation born of pedantic and empty learning. I bet you would never know a kundalini experience if it hit you in the Sahasra with it.

          Try offering comfort and peace for a change. It may heal you. Your meagre intelligence and knowledge dripping through the open sores of ill formed argument in your posts call for the salve of humility and patience.

          Try meditation for a change.

          - Ananth Tantri
          • I don't "try" to meditate. "Try" implies potential failure. Perhaps you should stop "trying" to meditate and simply...meditate.

            Then, perhaps, you'd learn that "meditation for a change" has real meaning.

            Sorry, Ananth, I don't point out "flaws" in everyone, however I'm glad to see that you are finally acknowledging that I pointed out your flaws rather than your repeated denial. That's a step in the right direction.

            Am i without ego? Nope! But I never claimed to be by making comments implying how powerful I am and how, when I die, the super-duper-secret system that nobody else knows is going to die with me.

            I agree that there are self-styled, pompous maniacs crying for attention, here. And frankly, if you wore a monocle and had a Persian cat you'd fit in as the enemy in the next James Bond movie.

            I don't "Try" to offer comfort and peace because, as I mentioned earlier, "try" implies failure. When people need comfort and peace I do offer it. You required neither. You required a mirror. And you're so horrified at what you see you seem to regress to "I know you are but what am I attacks" simply because I hold up a mirror.

            In another Tantra-oriented tribe there is a discussion as to whether "authentic" Tantra can be taught in the West. Unfortunately, you're showing why that would be so difficult.

            Namaste!
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      Tue, January 15, 2008 - 5:59 AM
      Beloved Brother Ananth,

      I totally understand your pain, years ago I was doing a lot of deep meditation and energy exercises, but I still lacked in the moral disciplines, one-day one of my less productive employees, had made a mistake that was going to cost me thousands of dollars and I lost it and began screaming at him, within an hour he was in the hospital dying, doctors could not figure out how all of his systems were shutting down. I knew that my misuse of energy was responsible I wept and pleaded with the divine to spare me from this karmic burden, he managed to pull through it, but for several years after that, I suspended all my energy practices and worked on my moral character. With great power comes great responsibility and yet it seems to me you have learned the lesson in sharing it here, that we must humbly compassionately and kindly share the light to the level of understanding that the vessel can receive, too much light and the vessel will crack.

      Would it not be better for you to develop that compassionate intuition that would allow you to discern those that are able to receive such a gift. Why else would this technique manifest to you were it not to be propagated into the human conscious stream. I would think there are worthy vessels to receive such an awakening, individuals that have done the homework who are walking in the level of service and surrender that would allow such a gift to synergize their work and not destroy it.

      As to pride, I have come to the realization it is something that can never fully be conquered, knowing that, I am constantly in this state of humbling myself, deferring praise, and staying in a state of gratitude for the unmerited graces bestowed upon my soul. And if someone excuses me of being in pride or in ego, I fall down on my face, and acknowledge not resist any accusations. Indeed that is why these foolish people on the net exists to ever keep the faithful in deep humility.

      hiss on dear brother hiss on,
      Yosef
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    Mon, January 7, 2008 - 10:55 AM
    "Sarpa Tantra will probably die with me, similar to how the five point palm exploding heart technique dies with Pai Mei in Kill Bill 2. "

    Interesting comparison.

    Why would this technique die with you?
    • Simply, I have not come across anyone practicing it. I have decided never ever to practice it or teach it as I am not sure I am equipped or prepared to deal with all of its consequences.

      In a way I feel bad that something beautiful will perish into obscurity, but I am comforted by the fact that some tools are just too darned dangerous to be used by anyone, and therefore it is better they be hidden.

      Remember the movie Jumanji, where the kids find this amazing game with unforseen consequences, and finally decide to put it away. It is sad you are putting the game away, but you are glad you will be tormented no more.

      That is how I feel, and the reason I decided to write about it.

      Thanks for asking.

      - Ananth Tantri

      • Namaste, Ananth.

        I'd be grateful to know who your teacher was/is? More specifically, the teacher who taught you how to use this technique.

        Thanks,
        ~claude.
        • The technique has its origins in the Mahabharata... it is said that when kings and warriors come back from battle, and prior to their going back to battle, the karma of the taking of life has to be cleansed... There is no time to meditate after the battle is done, and one is too tired... what was needed was a rapid rising of the kundalini that washed away all of the karma and cleansed the chakras to renew them with vigor. This was only to be practiced as a matter of last resort as the warrior's life depended on the inner peace they needed to fight with vigor the next day. The method and technique originated there... as a sort of rapid instant kundalini rising in a tent in the battlefield... Those that practiced it, were later to become the devadasis, or dakinis thought it rapidly morphed into more than kundalini rising and became highly sexually charged... the teaching of these dakinis was left to a select set of the namboodris over a course of time and only a few families of the namboodries inherited the technique as time passed... As the potential to misuse was so obvious, the technique was banned even among ardent tantra followers...

          This is the essence of the history of it... my teachers are long gone, and are borne away into the dust... I hear their voices only in my dreams...

          Vishnu reclining on Sesha, or Shiva with a snake around him were all symbolic of the tantra, and not just the kundalini...

          - Ananth Tantri
          • Just a question, if you genuinely feel sorry for what happened and don't want to ever do this with anyone again and you do really believe its that powerful, then why are you explaining exactly how to do it on a public forum that just anyone can read and follow? That to me is the greater of the irresponsible acts.

            You may feel guilt over this one, which I agree is misguided, she was just as responsible as you, but how much more guilt do you think you will feel now? How many people are going to read this and try it - and you've just told them exactly what to do.

            It sounds like you are enjoying wallowing in the guilt of it all and bragging just a bit about how you could do it.
            • My apologies if I seemed to revel in it... just the opposite. I am tormented by it.

              And by the way, nothing that I said can be picked up and practiced by anyone. Much akin to picking "Tantra for Dummies" and being able to practice it. Nothing works without timing, practice, dedication, and years of manifesting a thought so it becomes real. Nothing that I said in my post can be applied without years of dedicated practice. So there is no fear of sharing.

              - Ananth Tantri
              • At least from my perspective, it sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about at a fairly fundamental level.

                Now, that may simply be a matter of terminology - it may be that you're talking sense, but with a complex and completely different vocabulary - but it also sounds distinctly plausible that you've activated your own "kundalini" or had somebody do it for you, without stabilizing your awareness first, resulting in running around Doing Stuff without a clear sense of goals.

                Question: anybody in your chain of initiation close to Rudrananda, Muktananda and Nityananda?

                PS: and, if you do know what you're doing, please don't imply any disrespect, apart from the disrespect for the written medium as a place for discussing these things.
      • "Remember the movie Jumanji, where the kids find this amazing game with unforseen consequences, and finally decide to put it away. It is sad you are putting the game away, but you are glad you will be tormented no more."

        Well no, it didn't remind me so much of *that* movie nor of the Kill Bill movie, either...it reminded me more of somthing along the lines of, let's say...the film, The Spanish Prisoner.
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          Tue, January 8, 2008 - 12:51 PM
          all this referencing movies makes me think that maybe you should try your hand at writing screenplays, Ananth...

          best of luck :)
          • Maybe all the penis and pussy waving going on 'round here reflects some sort of collective insecurity about Tantra - however "relativistically" it is defined by every expert here - as a "legitimate" path or tradition, whether it be wannabe gurus from India spewing off, saying "that isn't Tantra" or the Westerners -parrots prone to appropriating rhetoric and mannerisms from somewhere else to bolster themselves against all that isn't present in this culture, or themselves for that matter?

            It sure seems this way sometimes.

            ~V~
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              Re: A Tantric Mistake - Consequences and learnings

              Tue, January 8, 2008 - 11:33 PM
              Its kind of like that movie "frailty", where using conventional knowledge, one thinks that the main characters are hurting innocent people because they are crazy, deluded, possibly just waving their cocks. Where as, two of them can see past phony appearances, and see what is really going on. Of course, there is the third main character who is the "voice of reason", but it is just because he cannot see deep enough... as it turns out he becomes a serial killer. Please don't hurt anyone.
  • Shakti provokes so much ego defence and offence in threads like this. So much teaching and learning available to the protagonists if they can just step back into awareness and see their projections / disowned parts.
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      Sat, January 12, 2008 - 12:50 AM

      Thanks Allano for your comment here.

      I too when began practicing raja yoga, learned to use will-power/and even anger/rage to raise kundalini. Eventually I was excited and was raising kundalini and opening third eyes of friends. Till this day some of the people I did this with back then still have open third eyes and having experiences which they had not done any meditation.

      Though, after 3 years passed the raja yoga practices, when a heart opening and following by awakening occurred, the very nature of my will power changed. It became a different kind of will no longer identified with my mental ideas. Doing what I had done with 'shakti' in the past felt like rapping her. I could no longer do such violation of my own or other's energy. I still have the ability, and years have passed and I still refuse to force my will on another person. I believe in the natural progression of each individual.

      However, I do find that connecting with the awakened heart with people, it has truly opened up people I've been in contact with, and for a number of people they have experienced authentic heart openings. Specifically I recall when I was at a massage therapist, receiving a session, and when she put her hand on my chest, she began to uncontrollably cry and shiver. I held her for the rest of the session as she experienced a heart opening. She was completely confused, and feeling in love with me. I explained to her as best as I could what was happening, though we never talked again.

      However, I try to remember to recapitulate my energy back to into myself, and whatever energy of theirs I have, I heal and send back to them. This way not creating a energy-co-dependent relationship which can become very draining!

      ultimately we can all express love, so long as we can remain clear with our own boundaries, and learn to clearly marshal our own individual energy.

      This whole concept/concern of 'ego' does in fact just disappear from conversations once an authentic awakening happens. I've experienced that one could have an awake kundalini, have super-psychic powers, and still have a big ego. And, I do believe that an awakening can happen to a person who has never experienced any of these kundalini/power things.

      However, I just do not see an awakened person doing intense kundlini practices which involve will power. Once the awakening happens or "takes place", then things are just open to happen naturally. Sometimes it just takes a small question like "shakti, will you bend for me?" and there she will go. This is because the will power is being directly from a higher chakra/vibration i.e. 4th or higher, and no longer it is needed to force shakti to do anything.

      Now days, my continuous experience is constantly discovering new things, increasing my awareness, changing and playing with my own energy configuration... using the world as a mirror to reflect back aspects of myself which I can't see easily by myself, and using that insight to grow in awareness as well make changes within my energetic configuration.

      there feels to be no goal/destination, yet there is the perpetual healing journey of human-becoming
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        Sat, January 12, 2008 - 8:02 PM
        I have read accounts of this technique, or maybe something very similar elsewhere.
        But If you think that it will really die with you you should make an extra effort to pass it on to someone else but pick the next person very wisely. It could be a lesson that way and you would do two things at once.
        It is not good to let things fester, and furthermore to let them fester in guilt. Guilt can also be an ego thing.
        This could prove that you have learned the lesson and have passed on knowledge in a smart way and a means to put the whole thing to rest in a positive way.
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    Sat, January 12, 2008 - 10:04 PM
    Ananth, I think discussing the outcome of your slip in judgement is very valuable for others who might be tempted. I can well imagine myself asking someone like you, rather imprudently, to go ahead and just "wake it up" in younger years. You were tempted by her request as I'm sure she was aware you found her attractive and used that to some advantage- it has certainly been my experience that people who possess great knowledge or power do not always exhibit the consistent self-governance that is required to manage it. It would be superb if we were only granted access to those things which we can handle but more often than not we get to play out the madness and mayhem of what happens when we get what we thought we asked for. It does seem to me that you have a great deal of responsibility to help her get things back on track and that, if it is no longer possible to meet her, a good deal of prayer should be going her way towards managing that energy in her system. I have gone through (not at the scale that you describe) harsh and unwise awakenings in energy which have in the past damaged my digestive and nervous system and which impacted close relationships- but although work is necessary to understand how to realign and rechannel things, its a very workable task. I just really think you should make sure she's looking after herself. That would be really resolving the issue.

    I don't really agree with the idea that to err is human, to admit divine.

    we err when we are acting like corpses just flailing around after our impulses. when we admit, perhaps we are getting closer to taking charge and occupying ourselves...but to admit is not divine. to admit is to recognize we are not awake. so you are saying that you made a mistake but I don't think just not repeating it again is enough- there are two practices that should follow from this event- one that helps her heal and recover stability so she can channel the gift of this energy-- two- that ensures you have arrived at a place in yourself that you would not be swayed by the argument of an attractive woman. It is not an exercise in self control to refuse to teach this technique to anyone at all. That is creating a paranoid wall. It is an exercise in control to develop the capacity to recognize who can handle such a lesson and to give it only if it is appropriate.

    This "blame me flame me" stuff is nonsense. If you're feeling guilty then there are things you need to work on. Perhaps discussing it here is the first step and I wish you well with that.

    Ramiel I really enjoyed the way you described your process- I know a lot of people who are in a big rush to "get there" which seems silly considering we'll just be jumping on the ferris wheel back to the beginning at some point- so I' m personally trying to strike that same balance between learning and development which doesn't fetishize outcome. Otherwise we forsake the instant and that's all that really exists, right?
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      Thu, January 17, 2008 - 2:05 PM
      Some question remain

      How can this women be supported?
      Did you refer her to appropriate sources for help?
      How is she doing now?

      Ananth? This is not about you.
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        Fri, January 18, 2008 - 8:04 AM
        Ananth Tantri.

        I am little worried.

        I would like to point again what *V...below said that the woman shared the responsibility. She was equally responsible for what happened to her. She asked you for it. You did not force anything on her. You did not force her to awaken her kundalini but rather did it because she insisted.
        However, because of this one incident, isnt it rather radical or harsh to decide to never ever teach this to someone else again and let it die with you (assuming that no one else in this big wide world knows this technique {which is a little pompous I feel but one never knows})??

        On the other hand, you could take a lesson from your own mistake and pay more attention to the spiritual level that the seeker has reached so far (if you know these secret techniques, i am sure you have the psychic abilities to guage that). If you feel this person has reached some spiritual level then the next step would be to explain what you are going to do and the possible consequences to the seeker. And then let the seeker make an informed/educated decision whether to go ahead or not. I assume the seeker would be above 18yrs of age and hence be at least technically be able to own his/her share of responsibility?
        At the same time, perhaps also handle your ego in a way where your "desire to show what you know" does not get in the way of objectivity and sound/rational decisions, i.e. perhaps cultivate a more humble approach towards what you know and who you will share with the world.

        It is not for nothing that many tantric techniques are kept secret, not even written down but only orally or psychically transmitted and only to those who have shown an certain evolution in this path. Neverthless, they have been shared with those rare individuals who are trusted over so many centuries else you urself might not have learnt the sarpa tantra.



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          Fri, January 18, 2008 - 10:05 AM
          i agree with what kalas said, very beautifully written.

          i think that the key lesson here for you is to develop your sense of discrimination, so you can know when it is appropriate to use this technique, maybe the right person will come along, or maybe never........ i dont think its an all or nothing situation.
          om shanti
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    Re: A Tantric Mistake - Consequences and learnings

    Sat, January 19, 2008 - 11:08 PM
    is this a joke

    seriously

    so you have desires to have sex with a married woman, and you justify it in your mind that you are in a fantasy that you are awakening her kundalini,
    do you know how long it takes great yogis to awaken their kundalini

    and they would never speak of it with such pride and huger for power publicaly


    wow,

    Kali Yuga is realy an interesting time
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      Sat, January 19, 2008 - 11:42 PM
      One thing I have observed in the past and present is that those who either claim themselves to be grand yogis and intergalactic gurus and equally as important those who project that onto them - usually hopeful but naive, simple-minded people looking for guidance and a leader, and often someone they wish to do their thinking for them is....

      that those super yogis and intergalactic gurus are in fact human, just like everyone else, and carry with them all of their possible character strengths and beautiful grace, and ability to explain difficult abstractions in more human understandable terms; all of their possible frailties and flaws, weakenesses and insecurities just like everyone else on the planet, and yes all of the colorful hand baggage of ego that may or may not match the flowing robes and the jargon that many seem to want and need to hear.

      Doesn't seem to matter if their chirpy compelling Indian novelties that you might want to cuddle becasue they're so cute, or some slick talkin western version reeking of essential oils and quaint gemstones, or whatever possible stereotype that might come to mind ( that is often amusingly true in terms of how such a leader is often imagined in many cases)

      they are people just like you and me and everyone else, with perhaps some much greater and deeper understandings of themselves and the universe that your average layperson simple will never comprehend.

      I have yet to meet a perfect person and I never will. Perfect people do not exist and they never will. I can't imagine how perfect people would be that interesting actually.

      But many of us - and maybe more increasingly so - are trying to be better and more informed people in our imaginings and in our becomings of who we actually are, as well as who we are supposed to be.


      Personally, I expect our stuttering collective missteps as much as I would expect any one to make in taking steps in an effort at being a better person. It's a tremendously bad cliche but we all learn a lot from falling down and learning how to pick ourselves back up, super yogis and intergalactic gurus included.

      ~V~