love it or hate it it sure is an interesting Quote----
There exist three kinds of tantrism: white, black and grey. The schools of White Magic are based in white tantra. The schools of black magic are based in black tantra. The schools of grey tantra are confused, vague; yet lead the aspirant to black tantra.
White tantra is the sexual connection without ejaculation of the ens seminis. Black tantra is the sexual connection with ejaculation of the ens seminis. Grey tantra is the sexual connection in which the ejaculation of the ens seminis sometimes occurs, and sometimes does not.
The schools of regeneration forbid the ejaculation of the ens seminis; the schools of black magic do not forbid the ejaculation of the ens seminis, and even justify (in their way) ejaculation, with phrases and religious sentences.
The Initiates of the tantric schools work with the Hydrogen TI-12 (this is the hydrogen of the sex). This hydrogen is processed in the human organism, in accordance with the laws of the musical octaves, from Do to Ti.
The entire human organism is gestated among the matrix with the notes Do, Re, Mi, Fa, Sol, La, Ti. The verb, music, originates all creation.
After being intelligently processed within the human organism, the Hydrogen TI-12 (through the Maithuna, without ejaculation of the ens seminis) can receive an additional shock that will put it in the note Do of a second superior octave. Then, after completely saturating all the organic cells, it will crystallize in the splendid form of an independent, luminous and shining body: in the Astral Body of the Adepts and Angels of the Great White Lodge (the Solar Astral Body).
The average human being does not have an Astral Body; he only has the ego that travels through the Astral world during the common state of sleep, and after death. The ego replaces the Astral Body.
Really, the Astral Body is a luxury that very few possess.
We need to transmute the lead into gold; we need to create the Astral Body. This can only be possible with the Hydrogen TI-12.
The Astral Body is controlled by 24 laws and its basic food is the Hydrogen 24. The one who already possesses the Astral Body can place the Hydrogen TI-12 (through sexual transmutation) into the note Do of the third superior octave. Then, the marvelous Hydrogen TI-12 will crystallize in the splendid form of the Mental Body. In this form, the Initiate will have the Christ-Mind of the Gnostic Arhat.
The Mental Body is controlled by 12 laws and its basic food is the Hydrogen 12 of the mind, which must not be confused with the Hydrogen TI-12 of sex (I clarify this in order to avoid confusion).
The mind of the Gnostic Arhat shines marvelously in the world of the Universal Fire; it is the mind that does wonders and prodigies, it is the mind that can do miracles.
Every Initiate in possession of a healthy physical body and the Astral and Mental bodies has to generate an additional shock to the Hydrogen TI-12 (through Sexual Magic, without ejaculation of the ens seminis), in order to pass it to the note Do of a superior octave. Such an action will produce the crystallization of the Hydrogen TI-12 in the form of the body of the Conscious Will. Upon reaching this height, we possess the Superior Existential Bodies of the Being, of the Spirit.
The body of the Conscious Will is referred to in Theosophy as the Causal Body. They mistakenly suppose that all human beings possess it. In truth, only the Adepts of the Great White Lodge possess it. Such a body is controlled by 6 laws and its basic food is the Hydrogen 6.
Only the one who possesses the Superior Existential Bodies of the Being can reach the incarnation of his Divine Immortal Triad (Atman-Buddhi-Manas). Such a one is a true human being, a Master of Major Mysteries of the Great White Lodge.
A White Adept is, of course, the positive crystallization of the Hydrogen TI-12; however, we have to explain that there exist negative crystallizations: the adepts of the black lodge. They also work with the Hydrogen TI-12. They have black sexual tantric rituals. They ejaculate the seminal liquor during the sexual connection. They also project additional shocks to the Hydrogen TI-12, which puts it in musical octaves (inferior to the ones of this world in which we live). Then, the Hydrogen TI-12 crystallizes in the ego, strengthening and developing it with all its tenebrous, submerged, diabolic powers...
In Tibet, the Drugpa Clan practices black tantra. The black initiate Drugpas ejaculate the ens seminis mystically; the Drugpas of the red cap have a fatal system of re-absorbing the ens seminis (charged with feminine atoms) from the very vagina of the woman. With the force of the mind, they re-abosrb it through the urethra, sending it to the brain. In this way, the adepts of the left-hand path pretend to mix the solar and lunar atoms, with the purpose of "awakening the Kundalini." Their intentions are good, but the procedure is bad, because the spilled ens seminis is charged with atoms from the Secret Enemy. The negative consequences of such a procedure is the negative awakening of the Kundalini (the Kundabuffer organ is developed) and the negative crystallization of the Hydrogen TI-12. In the western world, the schools of black tantra hide themselves with talk of the Christ and the Gospels, speaking ineffable things, blessing and mystically spilling the ens seminis. They obtain the same failed results as the Drugpa Clan.
There are thousands of schools that seem to be whiter than the snow, yet are blacker than coal. It is most difficult to recognize the black schools. Their tenebrous instructors, who are demons, pretend to be living Christs, and naturally fascinate their parishioners. One becomes amazed listening to those wolves, dressed in sheep's clothing. Often these sincere, well-intentioned, yet mistaken individuals speak ineffable things and appear charitable and sanctimonious. How can one doubt them, in the presence so much sweetness? How can one doubt their kindness? How can one doubt their tenderness and charity? The most curious aspect is that these adepts of the left-hand path usually speak against black magic (how can one doubt them?); however, they are blacker than coal (this is a terrible problem).
There exist schools of black magic that practice emptying the mind. They want an empty mind without knowing Zen Buddhism, without ever having used a Koan, without ever having studied the science of Pratyahara and the law of mental bipolarity, without knowing the law through which the Essence of the mind is liberated from the battle of the antithesis, in order to mix itself with the Monad and thus reach Satori (illumination).
The fanatical ones of those black schools believe that the empty mind (or better if we say the quietude of the mind) is something as easy as blowing and making bottles, waiting for the moment when the Great Reality will enter in them in order for the animal, bestial entities that form the pluralized "I" to be expelled from them. They want the Divinity to enter into them, without possessing the solar vehicles (those vehicles are only possessed by those who have worked intensely with the Hydrogen TI-12). To try and incarnate the Great Reality without possessing the Solar Vehicles is like wanting to saddle a horse without having the horse.The fanatical ones of those schools want to become conscious of the subconscious, without eliminating the "I" and without even working with the Hydrogen TI-12.
It is frightful to see them falling on the floor, foaming at the mouth, in the middle of epileptic attacks (they are possessed, but think they are doing well). There are as many of them in the Subub, as there are in the spiritualist centers, "Chenrezians," etc.
These poor fanatical ones of the black schools do not want to realize that they are still embryos who do not possess the Astral Body, who instead only have the ego. In the physical world they appear as human beings, while in the molecular region they are merely dreaming, subconscious, cold, and phantasmal shadows.These poor imbeciles ignore that they do not have a Mental Body. They only have the pluralized mental "I" that utilizes the mental substance as a vehicle.
These poor foolish people ignore that they do not have the body of the Conscious Will and that they only possess the force of desire. Such tenebrous, fanatical ones believe that they are demi-gods and that Divinity can express Itself through them, even though they do not have the Superior Existential Bodies of the Being..
The black magicians are one hundred percent lunar. We have to free ourselves from the lunar influence and become solar human beings. We have to work with the Hydrogen TI-12, transmuting it in accordance with the law of the octaves, in order to create the Superior Existential Bodies of the Being. In this way we transform ourselves into authentic and true human beings.
The Schools of Yoga
In these times there is plenty of literature regarding yoga. Groups of yoga appear everywhere.It is necessary to clarify this aspect, for the good of all disciples of the Light. In the Hindustani tradition, there exist seven great schools of yoga, and all of them are useful because they assist as a type of kindergarten to humanity.
There is much that is useful in the schools of Yoga and much that is useless. It is necessary to distinguish between the useful and the useless.
The serious students that have gone to the Hindustan know very well that the best of all those schools, the most transcendental one, is Sex-Yoga, White Tantra.
Hatha Yoga is a type of kindergarten when only practiced for physical purposes, when practiced as a type of gymnastics; however, tantric Hatha Yoga is not a type of kindergarten. In its own right, it is a school of regeneration because it is related with the Maithuna (Sexual Magic) and all the tantric sadanas or wise Sexual Magic positions.
Raja Yoga is a type of kindergarten when it is only related with the chakras or magnetic wheels of the occult anatomy of the human being; but when it is combined with Kundalini Yoga and Sexual Magic, it is no longer a type of kindergarten and, as a fact, becomes a school of regeneration.Jnana Yoga is a type of kindergarten when its main concern is just the mind and its powers; but when it is combined with White Tantra, it is no longer a type of kindergarten, and actually becomes a school of regeneration.
Bhakti Yoga, or the devotional path, is a type of kindergarten when it is only related with devotional practices; but when it is combined with the Maithuna, it no longer is a type of kindergarten. It is then a school of regeneration.
Karma Yoga is a type of kindergarten when it only studies the path of the straight action (in theoretical form), when the devotee is unable to modify the circumstances of life, when the devotee does not possess the Being. Let us remember the one who acts is the Being. The intellectual animal only has the illusion that he does so, when in reality he does nothing: everything happens through him. Only the Being can modify the circumstances of life. In order to have the Being within, it is necessary to practice Sexual Magic, to dissolve the "I," and sacrifice ourselves for humanity.
Laya Yoga is a type of kindergarten when it only works in the field of respiration and meditation. It is no longer a type of kindergarten when it is combined with the Maithuna (Sexual Magic).
Samadhi Yoga is a type of kindergarten when it is not combined with the Maithuna, because the most elevated form of ecstasy is attained with the Maithuna (Sexual Magic).
Those who have traveled through India, Tibet, China, Japan, the Great Tartar, etc., know very well that the most serious form of yoga is found in tantra. In reality, without tantra (Sexual Magic) it is absolutely impossible to reach Initiation.
The exoteric or public circle of every school of yoga is a type of kindergarten. The esotericism, or secret circle of every school of yoga, is not a type of kindergarten, but a school of regeneration.
In ancient times, the Maithuna was taught publicly in all the ashrams of the Hindustan. Unfortunately, the little brothers and sisters were abusive and created scandals. The Gurus of those ashrams had to close the curtain of esotericism, and today the Maithuna is taught only in secret in some ashrams. Such a dramatic decision, made by the Gurus of those ashrams, transformed their ashrams into a type of kindergarten; however, those Gurus practice the Maithuna and teach it to the most prepared (in order to avoid scandals).
In the western world, yoga has not been comprehended correctly, and naturally many infrasexuals have appeared, who hate sex.
Really, yoga without sex, without the Maithuna, is like a garden without water. Yoga without sex is a type of kindergarten, not a school of regeneration. Yoga without the Maithuna cannot Self-realize anyone.
Let us remember the school of Yogananda. We know the Kriya of Yogananda. We have studied it profoundly and it is incomplete. It lacks tantra, it needs the tantra of Tibet. Yogananda did not receive the complete Kriya. For this reason, such a Kriya cannot Self-realize anyone.We are not saying with this that such a Kriya is useless; it is clear that it is useful as a type of kindergarten, and that is all.
It is absurd to adulterate Gnosis, to adulterate the knowledge by putting such a Kriya within the Gnostic Movement (adultery is absolutely forbidden in the Christian gospel).
Really, the Kriya of Yogananda is just a branch of the Laya Kriya, or tantric sadhana of Tibet. Without tantra, such a Kriya is incomplete. Thus no one can attain Self-realization with that Kriya. Not even Yogananda attained Self-realization. Yogananda needs to reincarnate and work with the Maithuna; only in this way will he attain inner Self-realization...
The grave situation with the fanatical ones of infrasexuality is that they are completely convinced that they can attain Self-realization through renouncing sex, or by fornicating.
The Theosophical and pseudo-Rosicrucian schools have made the pseudo-occultist students believe that the intellectual animal already possesses the seven bodies. Such a concept is false. The reality is that due to a lack of cosmic Initiation, the clairvoyants of the Theosophical Society have given deficient information, confusing the astral substance and the ego with the legitimate Astral Body. They have also confused those who mistake the legion of "I's" for the authentic Mental Body, and the Essence or Buddhata for the Causal body, etc. In this way, and with such hypotheses in the mind, it is clear that the fanatical ones of yoga, pseudo-esotericism or pseudo-occultism, etc., have not comprehended the necessity of creating the inner bodies (they believe that they already have them, due to misinformation).
If they could profoundly comprehend the inner bodies and based themselves in the Law of the Philosophical Analogies, they would work with the Maithuna or Sexual Magic, because they would comprehend that "as beyond, so below" - if with the sexual act we engender children, then (by the Law of Analogies) with that same act we engender the inner bodies.
Unfortunately, our pseudo-occultist brethren are terribly misinformed. Ignorance is the mother of all errors...
Samael Aun Weor
www.gnosticteachings.org/types...chools
There exist three kinds of tantrism: white, black and grey. The schools of White Magic are based in white tantra. The schools of black magic are based in black tantra. The schools of grey tantra are confused, vague; yet lead the aspirant to black tantra.
White tantra is the sexual connection without ejaculation of the ens seminis. Black tantra is the sexual connection with ejaculation of the ens seminis. Grey tantra is the sexual connection in which the ejaculation of the ens seminis sometimes occurs, and sometimes does not.
The schools of regeneration forbid the ejaculation of the ens seminis; the schools of black magic do not forbid the ejaculation of the ens seminis, and even justify (in their way) ejaculation, with phrases and religious sentences.
The Initiates of the tantric schools work with the Hydrogen TI-12 (this is the hydrogen of the sex). This hydrogen is processed in the human organism, in accordance with the laws of the musical octaves, from Do to Ti.
The entire human organism is gestated among the matrix with the notes Do, Re, Mi, Fa, Sol, La, Ti. The verb, music, originates all creation.
After being intelligently processed within the human organism, the Hydrogen TI-12 (through the Maithuna, without ejaculation of the ens seminis) can receive an additional shock that will put it in the note Do of a second superior octave. Then, after completely saturating all the organic cells, it will crystallize in the splendid form of an independent, luminous and shining body: in the Astral Body of the Adepts and Angels of the Great White Lodge (the Solar Astral Body).
The average human being does not have an Astral Body; he only has the ego that travels through the Astral world during the common state of sleep, and after death. The ego replaces the Astral Body.
Really, the Astral Body is a luxury that very few possess.
We need to transmute the lead into gold; we need to create the Astral Body. This can only be possible with the Hydrogen TI-12.
The Astral Body is controlled by 24 laws and its basic food is the Hydrogen 24. The one who already possesses the Astral Body can place the Hydrogen TI-12 (through sexual transmutation) into the note Do of the third superior octave. Then, the marvelous Hydrogen TI-12 will crystallize in the splendid form of the Mental Body. In this form, the Initiate will have the Christ-Mind of the Gnostic Arhat.
The Mental Body is controlled by 12 laws and its basic food is the Hydrogen 12 of the mind, which must not be confused with the Hydrogen TI-12 of sex (I clarify this in order to avoid confusion).
The mind of the Gnostic Arhat shines marvelously in the world of the Universal Fire; it is the mind that does wonders and prodigies, it is the mind that can do miracles.
Every Initiate in possession of a healthy physical body and the Astral and Mental bodies has to generate an additional shock to the Hydrogen TI-12 (through Sexual Magic, without ejaculation of the ens seminis), in order to pass it to the note Do of a superior octave. Such an action will produce the crystallization of the Hydrogen TI-12 in the form of the body of the Conscious Will. Upon reaching this height, we possess the Superior Existential Bodies of the Being, of the Spirit.
The body of the Conscious Will is referred to in Theosophy as the Causal Body. They mistakenly suppose that all human beings possess it. In truth, only the Adepts of the Great White Lodge possess it. Such a body is controlled by 6 laws and its basic food is the Hydrogen 6.
Only the one who possesses the Superior Existential Bodies of the Being can reach the incarnation of his Divine Immortal Triad (Atman-Buddhi-Manas). Such a one is a true human being, a Master of Major Mysteries of the Great White Lodge.
A White Adept is, of course, the positive crystallization of the Hydrogen TI-12; however, we have to explain that there exist negative crystallizations: the adepts of the black lodge. They also work with the Hydrogen TI-12. They have black sexual tantric rituals. They ejaculate the seminal liquor during the sexual connection. They also project additional shocks to the Hydrogen TI-12, which puts it in musical octaves (inferior to the ones of this world in which we live). Then, the Hydrogen TI-12 crystallizes in the ego, strengthening and developing it with all its tenebrous, submerged, diabolic powers...
In Tibet, the Drugpa Clan practices black tantra. The black initiate Drugpas ejaculate the ens seminis mystically; the Drugpas of the red cap have a fatal system of re-absorbing the ens seminis (charged with feminine atoms) from the very vagina of the woman. With the force of the mind, they re-abosrb it through the urethra, sending it to the brain. In this way, the adepts of the left-hand path pretend to mix the solar and lunar atoms, with the purpose of "awakening the Kundalini." Their intentions are good, but the procedure is bad, because the spilled ens seminis is charged with atoms from the Secret Enemy. The negative consequences of such a procedure is the negative awakening of the Kundalini (the Kundabuffer organ is developed) and the negative crystallization of the Hydrogen TI-12. In the western world, the schools of black tantra hide themselves with talk of the Christ and the Gospels, speaking ineffable things, blessing and mystically spilling the ens seminis. They obtain the same failed results as the Drugpa Clan.
There are thousands of schools that seem to be whiter than the snow, yet are blacker than coal. It is most difficult to recognize the black schools. Their tenebrous instructors, who are demons, pretend to be living Christs, and naturally fascinate their parishioners. One becomes amazed listening to those wolves, dressed in sheep's clothing. Often these sincere, well-intentioned, yet mistaken individuals speak ineffable things and appear charitable and sanctimonious. How can one doubt them, in the presence so much sweetness? How can one doubt their kindness? How can one doubt their tenderness and charity? The most curious aspect is that these adepts of the left-hand path usually speak against black magic (how can one doubt them?); however, they are blacker than coal (this is a terrible problem).
There exist schools of black magic that practice emptying the mind. They want an empty mind without knowing Zen Buddhism, without ever having used a Koan, without ever having studied the science of Pratyahara and the law of mental bipolarity, without knowing the law through which the Essence of the mind is liberated from the battle of the antithesis, in order to mix itself with the Monad and thus reach Satori (illumination).
The fanatical ones of those black schools believe that the empty mind (or better if we say the quietude of the mind) is something as easy as blowing and making bottles, waiting for the moment when the Great Reality will enter in them in order for the animal, bestial entities that form the pluralized "I" to be expelled from them. They want the Divinity to enter into them, without possessing the solar vehicles (those vehicles are only possessed by those who have worked intensely with the Hydrogen TI-12). To try and incarnate the Great Reality without possessing the Solar Vehicles is like wanting to saddle a horse without having the horse.The fanatical ones of those schools want to become conscious of the subconscious, without eliminating the "I" and without even working with the Hydrogen TI-12.
It is frightful to see them falling on the floor, foaming at the mouth, in the middle of epileptic attacks (they are possessed, but think they are doing well). There are as many of them in the Subub, as there are in the spiritualist centers, "Chenrezians," etc.
These poor fanatical ones of the black schools do not want to realize that they are still embryos who do not possess the Astral Body, who instead only have the ego. In the physical world they appear as human beings, while in the molecular region they are merely dreaming, subconscious, cold, and phantasmal shadows.These poor imbeciles ignore that they do not have a Mental Body. They only have the pluralized mental "I" that utilizes the mental substance as a vehicle.
These poor foolish people ignore that they do not have the body of the Conscious Will and that they only possess the force of desire. Such tenebrous, fanatical ones believe that they are demi-gods and that Divinity can express Itself through them, even though they do not have the Superior Existential Bodies of the Being..
The black magicians are one hundred percent lunar. We have to free ourselves from the lunar influence and become solar human beings. We have to work with the Hydrogen TI-12, transmuting it in accordance with the law of the octaves, in order to create the Superior Existential Bodies of the Being. In this way we transform ourselves into authentic and true human beings.
The Schools of Yoga
In these times there is plenty of literature regarding yoga. Groups of yoga appear everywhere.It is necessary to clarify this aspect, for the good of all disciples of the Light. In the Hindustani tradition, there exist seven great schools of yoga, and all of them are useful because they assist as a type of kindergarten to humanity.
There is much that is useful in the schools of Yoga and much that is useless. It is necessary to distinguish between the useful and the useless.
The serious students that have gone to the Hindustan know very well that the best of all those schools, the most transcendental one, is Sex-Yoga, White Tantra.
Hatha Yoga is a type of kindergarten when only practiced for physical purposes, when practiced as a type of gymnastics; however, tantric Hatha Yoga is not a type of kindergarten. In its own right, it is a school of regeneration because it is related with the Maithuna (Sexual Magic) and all the tantric sadanas or wise Sexual Magic positions.
Raja Yoga is a type of kindergarten when it is only related with the chakras or magnetic wheels of the occult anatomy of the human being; but when it is combined with Kundalini Yoga and Sexual Magic, it is no longer a type of kindergarten and, as a fact, becomes a school of regeneration.Jnana Yoga is a type of kindergarten when its main concern is just the mind and its powers; but when it is combined with White Tantra, it is no longer a type of kindergarten, and actually becomes a school of regeneration.
Bhakti Yoga, or the devotional path, is a type of kindergarten when it is only related with devotional practices; but when it is combined with the Maithuna, it no longer is a type of kindergarten. It is then a school of regeneration.
Karma Yoga is a type of kindergarten when it only studies the path of the straight action (in theoretical form), when the devotee is unable to modify the circumstances of life, when the devotee does not possess the Being. Let us remember the one who acts is the Being. The intellectual animal only has the illusion that he does so, when in reality he does nothing: everything happens through him. Only the Being can modify the circumstances of life. In order to have the Being within, it is necessary to practice Sexual Magic, to dissolve the "I," and sacrifice ourselves for humanity.
Laya Yoga is a type of kindergarten when it only works in the field of respiration and meditation. It is no longer a type of kindergarten when it is combined with the Maithuna (Sexual Magic).
Samadhi Yoga is a type of kindergarten when it is not combined with the Maithuna, because the most elevated form of ecstasy is attained with the Maithuna (Sexual Magic).
Those who have traveled through India, Tibet, China, Japan, the Great Tartar, etc., know very well that the most serious form of yoga is found in tantra. In reality, without tantra (Sexual Magic) it is absolutely impossible to reach Initiation.
The exoteric or public circle of every school of yoga is a type of kindergarten. The esotericism, or secret circle of every school of yoga, is not a type of kindergarten, but a school of regeneration.
In ancient times, the Maithuna was taught publicly in all the ashrams of the Hindustan. Unfortunately, the little brothers and sisters were abusive and created scandals. The Gurus of those ashrams had to close the curtain of esotericism, and today the Maithuna is taught only in secret in some ashrams. Such a dramatic decision, made by the Gurus of those ashrams, transformed their ashrams into a type of kindergarten; however, those Gurus practice the Maithuna and teach it to the most prepared (in order to avoid scandals).
In the western world, yoga has not been comprehended correctly, and naturally many infrasexuals have appeared, who hate sex.
Really, yoga without sex, without the Maithuna, is like a garden without water. Yoga without sex is a type of kindergarten, not a school of regeneration. Yoga without the Maithuna cannot Self-realize anyone.
Let us remember the school of Yogananda. We know the Kriya of Yogananda. We have studied it profoundly and it is incomplete. It lacks tantra, it needs the tantra of Tibet. Yogananda did not receive the complete Kriya. For this reason, such a Kriya cannot Self-realize anyone.We are not saying with this that such a Kriya is useless; it is clear that it is useful as a type of kindergarten, and that is all.
It is absurd to adulterate Gnosis, to adulterate the knowledge by putting such a Kriya within the Gnostic Movement (adultery is absolutely forbidden in the Christian gospel).
Really, the Kriya of Yogananda is just a branch of the Laya Kriya, or tantric sadhana of Tibet. Without tantra, such a Kriya is incomplete. Thus no one can attain Self-realization with that Kriya. Not even Yogananda attained Self-realization. Yogananda needs to reincarnate and work with the Maithuna; only in this way will he attain inner Self-realization...
The grave situation with the fanatical ones of infrasexuality is that they are completely convinced that they can attain Self-realization through renouncing sex, or by fornicating.
The Theosophical and pseudo-Rosicrucian schools have made the pseudo-occultist students believe that the intellectual animal already possesses the seven bodies. Such a concept is false. The reality is that due to a lack of cosmic Initiation, the clairvoyants of the Theosophical Society have given deficient information, confusing the astral substance and the ego with the legitimate Astral Body. They have also confused those who mistake the legion of "I's" for the authentic Mental Body, and the Essence or Buddhata for the Causal body, etc. In this way, and with such hypotheses in the mind, it is clear that the fanatical ones of yoga, pseudo-esotericism or pseudo-occultism, etc., have not comprehended the necessity of creating the inner bodies (they believe that they already have them, due to misinformation).
If they could profoundly comprehend the inner bodies and based themselves in the Law of the Philosophical Analogies, they would work with the Maithuna or Sexual Magic, because they would comprehend that "as beyond, so below" - if with the sexual act we engender children, then (by the Law of Analogies) with that same act we engender the inner bodies.
Unfortunately, our pseudo-occultist brethren are terribly misinformed. Ignorance is the mother of all errors...
Samael Aun Weor
www.gnosticteachings.org/types...chools
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Re: ....black tantra, black magic, Yogananda and elementary school..
Tue, May 6, 2008 - 6:25 PMSee? The dial on the BS meter goes up to eleven. Eleven is louder than 10.
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Re: ....black tantra, black magic, Yogananda and elementary school..
Mon, May 26, 2008 - 11:22 AMlol, exactly
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Re: ....black tantra, black magic, Yogananda and elementary school..
Sun, June 15, 2008 - 3:48 PMthanks Sham
12 is my thought though
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Tue, May 6, 2008 - 7:07 PMI wonder if Weor was referencing the Universal White Brotherhood of the Bulgarian master Peter Deunov. Yogananda, Krishnamurti, and incidentaly Einstein, and Rudolf Steiner all paid homage to this school? ....Or is Weor talking about the Great White Brotherhood (of ascended masters) as per Le Comte St.Germain ? In any event, I have my pentagram from Bulgaria which seems lots easier than alchemically manipulating hydrogen, (for what that's worth).
Gurdjieff, and his acolyte Ouspensky also make reference to coming to whole new levels through upward movement through the octaves.
It's interesting when things start to come together through concordance, as if all pointing in similar direction. It gives added weight to certain tantric teachings when esoteric schools from other places and times seem to have arrived at similar convergent knowledge.
Nice Day
briggi!
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Re: ....black tantra, black magic, Yogananda and elementary school..
Tue, May 6, 2008 - 10:25 PMpipe down..and put on a shirt. I "en seminis" all over your diatribe.
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Re: ....black tantra, black magic, ....speaking of black & white
Wed, May 7, 2008 - 12:47 AMSpeaking of loving it or hating it...speaking of black vs. white, this video news clip says it all:
www.theonion.com/content//...ars_career
Bom! Black Kali Durga....Ommmmm Shanti, shanti.
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Re: ....black tantra, black magic, ....speaking of black & white
Wed, May 7, 2008 - 12:54 AMOK, anyway, when you get to the onion website, scroll down the selection of videos, and play the one that's titled, "Use of the "N-word" may end porn star's career."
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 7:37 AMWell, there is better sentance structure here than on a Dr. Bronner's bottle at least.... -
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 8:40 AMViolent opposition is what I expected from some here but I posted this to help out a few that are still teatering on the edge...
Weor refers to The Great White Brotherhood and St Germain... Although many schools have perverted the ascended masters teachings by supposedly channeling them and so forth, it is a potent teaching that must be meditated on to be understood.....
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 9:27 AMOh and by teatering, I mean the edge of understanding that not just something is wrong with everything we have been taught but everything is wrong... We need complete and total change.. we are in a collective just like the animals and the only way to evolve further is to stop riding the fence and teatering on the edge of another cycle of mulching our spirits to dust the hard way...
anyway taking my own advice and off to stillness..
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 11:02 AMDon't worry .... complete and total change is on the way. But for now we are doomed to repeat seemingly endlessly the destructive cyclings of Kali Yurga,,, for it's just on that entropic energy of the universe winding down, as if set on self-destruct, that Black Goddess Kali Durga feeds. Complete and total change, like the warm glow of dawn after a harsh dark cold night, will be upon us with the onset of the coming New Golden Age. Until then, bide your time contemplating meditative visions of the world in all its awesome beauty as Brahma-Vishnu meant it to be.
Om Mata Om Namah
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Re: intellectual animals
Wed, May 7, 2008 - 9:36 AM"Violent opposition?" LOL!
There's not violence here, although people who are paranoid and who live in fear often accuse any who, like Captain Kirk, dare to say, "Excuse me, why does god need a star ship?"
Holding up stupidity and dogma for the b.s. it is isn't "violent opposition." It's simply turning on the light and revealing something for what it is.
By the way, why did you try to hide your devotion to Weor in your original post, merely saying that it was interesting (without saying why you found it interesting) and not saying something such as "I am a follower of Weor and I agree with this statement?" Are you ashamed?
You wrote, "love it or hate it it sure is an interesting Quote" and yet you did not say why you found it interesting.
Did you find it interesting because there is no evidence to support many of the statements?
Did you find it interesting because "he Great White Brotherhood and St Germain" are not related to Tantra?
What, specifically, did you find "interesting" and why, specifically, do you find the statements to be "interesting?"
Why did you post something when you "expected" violent opposition? Do you consider yourself a sort of Johnny Appleseed, spreading the dogma of Mr. Rodríguez wherever you go?
OWL, "violent opposition" is unnecessary when humor does a much better job.
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Shame sham
Wed, May 7, 2008 - 11:19 AMI rest my case... violence, anger and humor in the form of sarcasm...
It IS an interesting Quote to say the least ...As for whether I am a devotee of Weor I would say difinitely not, but a I do find him extremely insightful although those who reside solely in the need for 'proof' through the intellect without awakening the Ajna center will never find anything but suffering and confusion through their minds... And those that wake the intellect through books and studies without opening their hearts will surely never know compassion or love.
Tantra is spirituality and worship of the Divine in its highest form so anything related to spirituality can be directly related to Tantra as will.
I guess when someone is studying something that is really significant in their life they will share the infomation that is exciting them with others.. I am guilty of this although I try and stay well rounded in that I balance out the info with different views, like in my blogs..I hope I do this well.
Well before I had ever heard of Mr. Rodríguez I had experiences that led me to certain decessions which I have noticed cause opposition and some seems quite angry.. People want to continue with their lust and their greed so they get upset when you don't continue because it jeapordizes their belief system..
Johnny Apple seed, hmmm? I guess I thought that this forum would be a great place to talk about this subject... And yes I believe in never releasing the sexual energy, no matter what...
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Re: Shame sham
Fri, May 23, 2008 - 1:34 PMwow, I love the information i got from this it resonates well and deep in my well deep i shall cast a spell to keep my en siminis as my sheep in line and up my spine in rhyme to consume time. seriously though my ajna ejaculates recognition and understanding yeah its great, your right, but your sources are almost lies, Pramahansa will not reincarnate, i've spoken to him in dream, he's in the astral evolving by inspiring us living to fulfill what he obviously forgot, such as 'dont stop communicating' 'take over the media' and repitition is the simplest form of mind control. BE zen, a redundant contradiction, yeah we dont need sex, in fact the catholic church almost had it right with devil and god, one playing sexual release and distraction the other playing the human instrument of disciplined illumination and beyond rational real reality surreal rationality. psychic ability is a tool served by both but more permanently and readily by the light. I've accepted many 'gifts' from the 'devil' in the form of eccentricities and talents yet I am so close to the suns heat i am not afraid of gettin g lost in the 'loony devlish deviled egg of a folky yolk moon' the moon of earthly distraction is the source of sexual satisfactio through sustained release. the truth is though either or arent as bad, just extremely inneficient compared to true COMPLETE psychic mirror and mind digging archetypal ability. you are not done evolving if every day you are not mistaken for jesus. he is right he is so right in what he says, its almost abuse to put sources of info interconnection, are we really that intuitively blunted to the point where we cant see the obvious way in? the obvious missing peice to the public discourses of enightenment? we should champion this, we should point to all the psuedo-enlightened gurus in capitalist castles and fix their lack of true COMPLETE heart opened guru-ship. I have met a lot of gurus in LA and none have actually felt the abyss of potential beyond sitting and waiting for disciples, none have realized the need to plant more open sourced easily seen spores and seeds of the source. none have grounded their heart into physicality, beyond the point of depending on money. its all mental waiting until we all finally regroup to electroshock the clotted arteries of money in the system. then people will flow out of fear enough to contact the wise who they beleive are also money selfish charlatans as everyone thinks everyone in america is to each other. repitition is the simplest form of mind control. the media is the subconscious forced drill of enslavement, the fear box, their hearts and minds are hard to open when their consciousness turns to the status quo for terms turns and germs. its all just miscommunication because theyve been given a language of implied seperation and misdirected overvalued egoic willpower. sex in fact is the only thing all americans imply they have in common because its only taboo when supposedly used properly to talk about it, so talk about it, regularly that is your perscription. but this is amoon centered paragraphical dialoguical rantontological demagauge. I am on the moon, not yet the sun, but in its range yet i can feel its heat telling me what i need to change so me and perma-fun can meet. everypath works, its willpower jerks, have sex 10 times a day until your over it then switch to White tantra, seriously just dont fool yourself with the stagnant path of little change and the do nothing new range. Physics its all energy resonant feild physics as our bubbles of perception float attach and pop on over and through new ideas and brand new realized metaphors with synchronistic interconnection. I Will now heed your advice good man and take a white tantra course workshop and yoga teacher training, but i was planning on doing that anyway, you just helped me realize that a part of it was more than just writing. I've been intercoursing my reality and penetrating the possibilities of this universe improperly, I shall fuck my existence more efficiently thank you everything is sex and the act itself is a metaphor and code for the universe. thanks for the cheat code homey, remember though the moon is a power to distract desires with desires, until you bait and switch'em with the illumination of realization. you yoga peeps know the sun but seriously you need the moon too, to convert the collective subconscious, your wings are burning a little without the watery balance, but thats only what ascension appears like to those left behind in societies grind right? think what can the man made creation of LSD have meant to our species unconscious as a metaphor of pure psychic projected creativity without a shaman? its a trick lesson and question bait and switch the unnecessity of all boundaries with the 'everything is addiction and death when out of balance.' approach. Approach. But i digress: I love you if your reading this, if your subconscious gives a fleeting glimpse than the same fleeting blissful game i wish upon your wistful frame, if your eating this than by all means repeating this is mind controlling a cheat code for this game, everyone here loves love, everyone here agrees to live life, everyone on such a tribe needs not get angered or need 'sources' if your yoga was as consistent as your doubt, doubt is good but too much creates imbalance and leads to an unbalance inthe wrong place at the wrong time. cant we all just agree that weall agree? in that case we can fix the only true form of ignorance miscommunication through an externally projected response to non understanding. i grasped the truth in his statem,ent although a moon centered and an almost maniacle all sided argumant would have helped, the over-sanctity puts people off, seriously we understand 'the sun' enough with the pride words arent here to hide they are fun games of distraction and almost unsacred in their psychic diffusing irrationality. keep the sanctity understood and synonymous with community, otherwise you give the doubters the fleeing form of sacred immunity. Yes! a self refferential statement agreeing to life the speaker and everything as an affirmation, YES! is synonymous to god and is more readily understood ad as acceptance to join the only holy moment here NOW. lets all agree to look for the positives in each others archetypal time frozen 'history' as tools of vibrationaL assistance. or do we actually beleive charlatans only apply to 'money' crimeslike castenada (he was so smart bypassing the need of greedy 'real matters over real mindstuff' because matter doesnt matter in the never mind of universal over-valuing physicality blame game.) true charlatans are simply ignorant. True Charlatans are better than lazy harlots and the bar lots of praying to distraction tradition and cars shot. True Truth can explain anything from all sides of the bubble of the perception of a words meaning. what do you mean as a person? can you or are you ready to doubt only when you are always able to receive a clear answer why? and exactly how to fix it. we call that christ consciousness but we dont use english names in heaven we conjure worlds to explain the saturn and satan in seven. the world in every message word and swirl in reality can be synchroniously explained through psychic analysis, the rational feels a misunderstanding (sometimes its projected to the speaker, but sun centered people rarely speak so they have no/low articulate practice) but needs the intuitive passive to completely explain. hahaha haaa. I laugh in high spirits, i feel so joyful and full, oh and Opening Poster of thistribe thread please take me to your leader so i can get some free Sun-shine, i know the moon and know your message, but i have faults too Iam a Shroom shaman knowledgably soon ready to swoon yet needs only a post to speak from as in leadership position (leading communication, not control the universe does that, leadership needs only to exist to communicate the blue) but that is not a lot to ask if bright minds over scatters mother's matter I actually have a group of of us recently reincarnated Genii and Masters we are all around 17-18 years old, yet no foundation has had an open enough foundation to find our sound nation. Indigo, they say. or does the word no mean know that I am ignorantly without the power to grasp the truth in your meaning and the devotion to feel its future, know that i am wothout proper psychic facility. not to be elitist I Value attempts at truth and synchronization of minds into the holy moment, over assumptions of the self OWL! i love the whoooo? of every thought the owl asks where it came from, thats why he hears and snatches the prey (pray?) without a sound following the thought to wear(where) it meets(meats) the ground where it is USEFUL not the lazy owl in a tree distracting himself from the fact he cant fly all the time because he is fat or likes to Jiz on de backs, the armchair owl is a caged owl. (but replying and not dismissing and ignoring is beautiful BLUE!!! not the red edge of rejection your unconscious poked through) yet overvaluing and labeling animals as archetypes and the overfocus of that language even causes usto forget to stop thinking zen so we can be possesed by the truth spilling only what we need by trusting our tuning fork and seed. our bodies as instruments, our thoughts like software code, the software is here to reprogram the large scale, the yoga is here to consistently apply the future of aquarian ages to consistently elevate and become sages and completely lit candles! not candles burning without movement or the hand of dare i say YES! NO! is a subconscious affirmation to know externalized because we forgot that it only means to allow a moment of silence for intuition to enter either through flow writing or patient meditation any tool is cool. NEVER externalize, hahaha never set permanet boundaries either because we all externalize what we forget to hear. this applies as much to me as anybody, yet my only faults fall on the yang of physical movement my mind is my perfect warm lunar shell near the sun, money? who needs it, I only want the power to unfreeze it, but I am only a frequencey being expressed within this man's mind eye would say eye am synonymous with the God jupiter and the color blue, in this instance of my manifestation, I am part of you, the top down who want to bring the top down and build a pyramid for/from this mental capstone. we are Generals of the Indigo Are-Me of agreement synchronization valuing the truthful YES! but that is my generation, yours is the one of simply agreeing to reliquish power to trust with trust for trust to spread trust, a tough choice for those in their ivory tower mistaken for a flower, simply put for those without fear, inevitably its near, I may not appear in this body but i will infiltrate The structure to destruct her, Kali yuga i love her. BUt its time for the great white 'brotherhood' to change its name for advertising purposes, we are all colors cuz, Rainbow matches better and indigo's forever. dont jizz everybody!!!!! should be the name of the thread humour to teach not pride for one to its each. Agree to Re-agree. in india we would have been to heartily lazy to change the world which is obviously why we exist in america. Mind. your not hearing the body when the 'ego' gets most satisfied and high through the controlled jism of knowledge, as addictions pass you buy. Fun in the sun 1 where are you paying your attention 2? be cum, become, focus on freeing 3 as the elements and analogies meta 4's your willpower bona-5 to share degress of seperation the caring 6 on the beach sees solid infinite knowing just out of reach keeps striving for it looking efficiently for quality through quantity of search and quality of criterion correcton and the spontaneous heart perfection, random lets the perfect answer join in tandem, but only exists beyond theft of time when we realize there is much left to rhyme with heaven at the point most feard the saturn beyond satan the seven of the new generation, your hearts are the strongest part of the past but the beast must be slain, your not to blame thoughts and actions are choices and there to be corrected to perfection and constant rejoices. yes 8 on me give me physicality, hate me berate, at least share to your physical freinds good or bad communication is still mostly blue revealing at least a little of the true. but mostly every attempt at sharing the right ideas is practice for you and a sign to the energetic directions who and what is deserving of the moon. 9 in time we will control our time never ending our rhyme between inner and outer oppositional yet parrelel lines, 9 is psychic completeness pure archetypical choice manifestation, the shiviac ability to switch vibrations masks and faces to catalyze mental fertility and a display of the infinite possibilities applied to share or else its incomplete and most likely unreal if your sitting in your armchair's zzzz's zeal, asleep at the wheel, inconsistent/incomplete psychic (AKA all mental) ability is abuse like sacred cows compared to veal, actually its pure ignorance, al evil lives backwards (evil-live palindrome) why does buddha laugh? he sees the future and the hilarity of slapstick ignorance. most just get lazy when they find the choice ability of bliss sitting in caves high on decaves of vibration as if it saves others, if your not a part of the solution you are part of the same problematic game (if you play any form of the clotting money elitist shame game) otherwise its smarter to join nature and meditate until death like 'into the wild' understanding at the last aescetic breath, but death should happen mentaly so the body can be reprogrammed as a perfect joy/share and love tool. haheahe i've gone off ejaculating words on a tangentle differential. 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Re: Shame sham
Fri, May 23, 2008 - 2:29 PMParagraphs.
Pretty please.
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Re: intellectual animals
Mon, May 26, 2008 - 12:17 PMLOL
Violent opposition? Nope.
Laughing Out Loud? Yep.
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Re: ....black tantra, black magic, Yogananda and elementary school..
Sun, May 25, 2008 - 11:27 AMare you really referring to the Drugpas according to Blavatsky and "Twin Peaks" mythos...hahahahahaha. Pleeeaaase.
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Re: ....black tantra, black magic, Yogananda and elementary school..
Sat, June 14, 2008 - 5:33 AMHi people,
I wouldn't pay him too much attention, i have read several weird things from S.A. Weor. As example: he boldly states that vampires do exist and are the result of sexual tantra between males... He also wrote that goblins are a kind of subterranean spirits that look after some atlantean weapons buried below the dunes of Sahara dessert.
Ah, and he met Sw. Sivananda in the moon (in another loka of course), he "foolishly felt enlightened" but had to reborn again because he did not practice maithuna on earth.
Striking accounts... I don't deny them but simply can't believe them.
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Re: ....black tantra, black magic, Yogananda and elementary school..
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Re: ....black tantra, black magic, Yogananda and elementary school..
Sun, June 15, 2008 - 5:57 AMI find the responses to the original posting to be more interesting than the original posting. Just my opinion.
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Re: ....black tantra, black magic, Yogananda and elementary school..
Sun, June 15, 2008 - 3:48 PMYAY Antana
I have to......
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Re: ....black tantra, black magic, Yogananda and elementary school..
Thu, June 19, 2008 - 9:20 PMCould not help answering to this book-full-block-headed non-practicing non-experienced intricate judgments about Tantra, Drugpas and Yoga.
From experiential, practical and not self-hypnotized records:
1. Amoroli-Vajroli-Sahajoli (see Shivasamhita, the core text of all tantra-yoga in India) is connected to both non-ejaculation in singular / coupled practices or ejaculation-fertilization-suction in coupled practices.
2. To stop the formation of sperm in the body helps in the practice of longevity of samadhi. A person gone through vasectomy does not enthrall in samadhi! lol
3. Seminal flow is stopped to stop flow out of sperm. If anyone masters the practice to have orgasm without sperm is an exalted yogi who enjoys samsara remaining in Nirvana.
The thread shows a support of an non-practicing tantra-impotent (non-practitioner blubber) to another non-practicing intellectual impotent in pure Western terms with Catholic flavors. In Tantra there is nothing called back white or grey. -
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Re: ....black tantra, black magic, Yogananda and elementary school..
Thu, June 19, 2008 - 9:28 PMKula wrote: "The thread shows a support of an non-practicing tantra...In Tantra there is nothing called back white or grey."
Or red.
These are all concepts added to Tantra by Westerners or to appeal to Westerners, just as different colored "belts" were added to martial arts.
I do recall that Yogi Bhajan and his followers call their practices "White Tantra." I think there is some Western influence on this choice, however.
Of course, the term "Tantra" to define a group of practices is also a Western addition, as it was noted that some practitioners were using techniques from the texts known as "the Tantras."
To the best of my knowledge, although Tantra is quite old, nobody called themselves "Tantrics" until a relatively short time ago.
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Re: ....black tantra, black magic, Yogananda and elementary school..
Thu, June 19, 2008 - 10:07 PMYes: in the west we apparently need precious names for ouselves to reinforce the notion of how superspecial we are in the world.
Why not have pretty colors and outfits to go with the charade
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Re: ....black tantra, black magic, Yogananda and elementary school..
Sat, June 21, 2008 - 1:04 AMActually Sham, you are right about Tantra practitioners should be following Tantric texts.
The term Tantrika is very old in India, by no means a recent affair. The term Tantrika starts historically from 2nd Cen AD by the followers of Nagarjuna who followed the way of practice coded in the first text of "Tantra" called Guhyasamaja Tantra. Prior to it those who practiced the practices coded later as Tantra were known as "mystics" (rahasyavid). The term "Tantra" first occurred in Nagarjuna's writing.
Whatever I have written at the last post as "the thread" is about the person who started it with a blasphemy quotation, and not about others who took part in the discussion.
A "Tantrika" in the real term should be considered as one who follows a tantrik textual as well as practical lineage of masters and is ordained as a "Tantrika" by the process of initiation and empowerment by the Guru.
Colours are of course significant in Tantra and there are 5 different annals known as Yellow, Red, White, Blue and Green following the psychic aura orders. But calling something white sensed as moral and black sensed as immoral like white magic and black magic, is really a Catholic interpretation of Tantra in Western world. -
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Re: ....black tantra, black magic, Yogananda and elementary school..
Sat, June 21, 2008 - 4:50 PMAs someone who has done "White Tantra," I can state that it is extremely beneficial.
But yeah: the "white" thing bothers me, perhaps simply because you "have to" wear white during it.
White holds no symbolism for me, nor do I own anything white.
So I half-conform, wearing a half-white outfit, the rest black. The white shirt and kufi thing stay deeply packed elsewhere when not in use.
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Sat, June 21, 2008 - 7:41 PM"The white shirt and kufi thing stay deeply packed elsewhere when not in use. "
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Re: ....black tantra, black magic, Yogananda and elementary school..
Mon, June 23, 2008 - 6:17 AMVenerable guruji,
Which is the path or steps to follow to such control over our seminal flows?
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Re: ....black tantra, black magic, Yogananda and elementary school..
Wed, June 25, 2008 - 12:01 AMAmoroli -Vajroli-Sahojoli are the mudras for the practice. Minimum time to achieve the perfection of Wisdom through these practices is !2 years, one life time Nirvana. But the time to grow the elegibility is very tangible. My disciple practicing these:
* Indian average practitioner takes three months to get into it
* Western average practitioner takes atleast one year to get into it.
it is not at all theoritical, is practical; has to work out with the Guru, no way else.
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